A request

With an extra hour (leaving time was moved from 12:00 to 1:00)
the following letter to the editor was keyboarded and posted
out to newspapers.

Should it appear in one you read, please let me know.

        Joe

(I hope you agree with the thought expressed)

________________________________________
To: Letter to the Editor <joe.hueglin@bellnet.ca>
From: Joe  Hueglin <joe.hueglin@bellnet.ca>
Subject: Green protectionism: Charting Canada's future

Dear Editor,

There are always choices.

Look at the place of origin of goods in whatever store you go into.  Few goods have a "Made in Canada" label.  This before adding any direct or indirect costs associated with fighting global warming or climate change.

Increasingly there is little to protect aside from services. Call centres are increasingly offshore as well.  India some say has 100, 000 lawyers knowledgeable in Common Law whose services might in some way be employed.

Canada's (or some will argue the provinces rather than Canada's) raw materials are in demand.  They are exported, yes, but as raw logs to be sawn elsewhere or through petroleum pipelines to be refined in the U.S. of A. .

Is there a point at which current trends are considered in long range terms?

Classical economics has four factors: land, labour, capital and management. Canada's raw materials being sold offshore, Canada's workers being supplanted by those in other lands, capital setting up firms abroad and management content to do all three of the others 'cause they serve to benefit the bottom line.

There is a fifth factor of production and distribution, government.

It is time for the options, the positives and negatives of following various courses of action, are investigated. Investigated in a non-partisan manner drawing upon the knowledge of the public service, the private sector and academics and presented in a comprehensible manner.

Rather than partisan wrangling over Green protectionism what is necessary is a Royal Commission Charting Canada's future. Now, not when the full effects of current trends are upon us.

Yours truly,

Joe Hueglin
5838 Mouland Avenue
Niagara Falls, Ontario
Tel 905-356-3901

Consumer Product Safety Act: Why be concerned?

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Bill-C51 C-51 "An Act to amend the Food and Drugs Act and to make consequential amendments to other Acts"
as framed by the government will not become law due to the actions of those concerned about natural health    
products being classified as drugs and the powers being granted to those administering the Act.                      

Concern over the granting of powers that infringe on restraints on government agents having the ability to enter,
search and seize without agreement through the courts carries over into Bill C-52.  As well the retreat on C-51  
can be reversed through powers granted in C-52.                                                                                         

Claudia Hudson and other individuals have developed an approach that I commend to you.  Presenting at the     
constituency offices of as many Members of Parliament as possible Petitions with names enough on them that 
the M.P. receiving it is obligated to present it in the House of Commons.                                                        

Links to their website, CANADIAN GRASSROOTS, with more detailed information is above                              

Portions of two articles stating concerns are below.  For those who wish to seek wider opinion the Google site is
http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=Bill+C-52&btnG=Google+Search&meta=cr%3DcountryCA                   

At my request Claudia sent a post to-day.  Her e-mail address is purposely provided for you to ask her questions
and to link you in to the Grassroots activity that is underway.                                                                           

Knowing my tendency to be repetitive I'll simply ask you to consider supporting the initiative that is being taken.

Until mid-August,                                                                                                                

Joe  of Windermere                                                                                                     
(for the next two weeks)                                                                                                    

From: "Claudia Hudson" <hudcom@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Bills C-51 and C-52 Attention
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:30:38 -0400

The summer is passing quickly, as summers do.
 
However, this summer of 2008 is taking with it the rights of Canadians under law by way of Bill C-52. This piece of legislation has been artfully designed to assure Canadians of safe manufactured goods while issuing  penalties which are in contradiction to our rights and freedoms,The Standing Committee in Ottawa is using the summer of 2008 to prepare C-52 (which will revive C-51) for action in early September.
 
Go to www.canadiangrassroots.info to see what you can do and read the links below to understand that the summer of 2008 is fleeting faster than you think. There is not much time for you to pay attention

 Claudia

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BACKGROUNDER: BILL C-52

Summary
As can be seen from the foregoing the Federal Government has increased its oversight of consumer products, increased the power of inspectors, altered the scope of penalties for violations, imposed and defined obligations to comply with Orders of inspectors, or the Minister. There are certain appeal rights, but it is not clear who will sit in review. There is no review of the Minister's Orders and under the Act there does not appear to be any review of alleged breaches of violations by the Courts.
Some issues to consider:
http://www.chfa.ca/media/pdf_files/Bill%20C-52/bill%20c-52_backgrounder,%20june%202008.pdf

• Should the Minister be able to impose unspecified conditions as part of an Interim Order?

• Should the Minister be able to endlessly require a person manufacturing, importing, or labelling, a consumer product to support the safety of the consumer without good cause?

• Should the Order of the Minister, or inspector, in all cases be based on reasonable grounds?

• Should the holder manufacturer, importer, or seller, of a consumer product be able to limit its required actions requested by the Minister if it ceases further sales of the consumer products and recalls existing product?

• Should there be appeal provisions included in the Act with respect to Minister's Orders and/or decisions and/or violations?

• Should there not be a limit on disclosure of personal and/or confidential business information? Should notice be required? Should the disclosure be limited to only that which is directly necessary to protect the health and safety of Canadians?

• Should an inspector be able to seize an article for an unlimited period of time without reasonable grounds to believe a breach of the Act has occurred?

• Should the owner be charged for storage of the article and conveyance where no breach of the Act has occurred?

• Should an inspector be permitted to define actions to be taken where no right of review by a Court, (review only by undefined class of individuals) where no breach of the Act has occurred, for an undefined term?

It is important to keep in mind that Bill C-52 is not yet Law, it is proposed Law and as such there is time for stakeholders to make their thoughts and concerns known. CHFA will be requesting the opportunity to appear before the Standing Committee on Health when it reviews Bill C-52, which will likely take place in the fall.
If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact CHFA at info@chfa.ca or 1-800-661-4510 (416-497-6939).

______________________________________________________________________
Draft Discussion Paper on Bill C-52 the Canada Consumer Product Safety Act

Prepared by Shawn Buckley, president of the Natural Health Products Protection Association
Click here to download this article in printable PDF format.

TABLE OF CONTENTS:

• Purpose of the Paper
• Summary of Points Discussed In This Paper
• Discussion Paper Only
• The Property and Privacy Rights Affected by the Bill are Broad in Scope
• Context for the New Law - is it necessary to take away freedoms to protect us?
  • With these tools already in place, the question arises as to what "other" powers are necessary to protect us?
  • The Hazardous Products Act.
  • The Criminal Code Criminal Negligence Provisions
  • Civil Penalties
• The Abolition of the Law of Trespass
• The Right to Seize Property Without a Court Order, Without Reporting the Seizure to a Court, and for an Indefinite Period
• The State can Assume Control over the Movement of Private Property Without a Court Order and Without a Safety Concern
• The State can Assume Control of Private Property, Including Land, Without a Court Order and Without a Safety Concern
• The Move Away from the "Significant Risk" Test
• The Abolition of the Independent Review Board
• Are the Powers to Take Control of Businesses and to Seize Private Property for Alleged Contraventions Legal?
• The Creation of Administrative Offences
• We are Responsible for the Costs of Seizures and Detentions Regardless of Whether the Seizures and Detentions were Justified

Purpose of the Paper

On April 8, 2008, Prime Minister Stephan Harper introduced Bill C-52 in the House of Commons. A copy of the Bill can be found at
http://www2.parl.gc.ca/HousePublications/Publication.aspx?DocId=3397415&Language =e&Mode=1&File=29.

The stated purpose of the Bill is to protect consumers. The Federal Government has been aggressively advertising to convince Canadians that the new law will protect them.

The NHPPA has asked me to prepare this Discussion Paper on Bill C-52 out of a concern that the Bill may represent an unprecedented encroachment on freedoms currently enjoyed by Canadians. The NHPPA is focussed on protecting Canadians' access to Natural Health Products. Although Bill C-52 does not specifically target Natural Health Products, the NHPPA is concerned that Bill C52 sets a precedent where Canadians will accept the removal of their rights in the name of safety. Also, if Bill C-51 is defeated but Bill C-52 passes, Bill C-52 could be made applicable to Natural Health Products by way of a regulatory amendment to Schedule I of Bill C-52.

Summary of Points Discussed In This Paper

    * Bill C-52 is being advertised as necessary to protect our families.

    * Under the existing law the State can already:
          o ban or restrict any consumer product under threat of million dollar fines and two year jail sentences under the Hazardous Products Act;
          o make immediate orders banning or restricting any consumer product if there is a significant risk to health or safety. In addition to fines and imprisonment for
            non-compliance, the State can apply to the Court for an injunction which brings police enforcement of the order, and
          o prosecute for criminal negligence or homicide under the Criminal Code. In some cases this can result in penalties of life imprisonment.

    * The real change brought about by Bill C-52 is not that it protects consumers, as the current law already grants the State significant powers to protect safety. Rather
      the real change is the abolition of procedural safeguards citizens currently enjoy.

    * Bill C-52 abolishes the law of trespass thus allowing the State access onto private property without any legal recourse.

    * Bill C-52 allows the State to seize property without a Court order, without reporting the seizure to a Court, and for an indefinite period.

    * Bill C-52 allows the State to assume control over the movement of private property without a Court order and without a safety concern.

    * The search and seizure powers in Bill C-52 are probably unconstitutional for violating the right found in section 8 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms to be
      free from unreasonable search and seizure.

    * Persons can be fined and have property forfeited to the State for administrative violations. Persons so charged have no right to have a Court determine their guilt or
      innocence. Guilt is determined by the Minister. There is no defence of due diligence or of honest but mistaken belief. There does not have to be a safety risk to be
      charged with an administrative offence. The Minister who determines your guilt or innocence can keep seized property if he/she finds you guilty.

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LEGISinfo

39th Parliament - 2nd Session
(Oct. 16, 2007-)

C-51 An Act to amend the Food and Drugs Act and to make consequential amendments to other Acts
The Minister of Health, The Hon. Tony Clement

• Text of the Bill
• Major Speeches in Parliament
• Status of the Bill
• Selected Recorded Votes
• Coming into Force Information

LEGISinfo
39th Parliament - 2nd Session
(Oct. 16, 2007-)

C-52 An Act respecting the safety of consumer products
The Minister of Health, The Hon. Tony Clement

• Text of the Bill
• Major Speeches in Parliament
• Status of the Bill
• Selected Recorded Votes
• Coming into Force Information

About this Bill

• Departmental Information
• Legislative Summary
• Further Reading
•  

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Daily Digest July 23, 2008

This will be the last regular Digest until mid-August.

We're taking two weeks at a cottage where I sit and
read Sci-Fi novels,.                                              

There will be one I mentioned several days ago if time
permits relating to Bills C-51 and C-52.                   

We're going to be up the road from Windermere House
if you're in the area drop me a post before Friday noon
about stopping by.                                                   

        Joe
                        905-356-3901

The DAILY DIGEST: INFORMATION and OPINION from ST. JOHN'S to VICTORIA.
ARCHIVED at http://cdndailydigest.blogspot.com/

EDITORIALs

ST.JOHN'S TELEGRAM -
Deja vu
http://www.thetelegram.com/index.cfm?sid=155430&sc=80

CORNER BROOK WESTERN STAR -
Another oil disappointment
http://www.thewesternstar.com/index.cfm?sid=155300&sc=30

CHARLOTTETOWN GUARDIAN -
Too much information broadcast over scanners
http://www.theguardian.pe.ca/index.cfm?sid=155527&sc=103

HALIFAX CHRONICLE HERALD -
Banning trans fat
http://thechronicleherald.ca/Editorial/1068916.html

AMHERST DAILY NEWS -
Delays look like dithering
http://www.amherstdaily.com/index.cfm?sid=155711&sc=61

MONTREAL GAZETTE -
Price-fixing is bad, no matter who does it
http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news/editorial/story.html?id=7e4e62ca-499e-4a71-8500-0d177a82b23a

KINGSTON WHIG STANDARD-
ETHANOL RETHINK IS SENSIBLE
http://www.thewhig.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=1125832

BELLEVILLE INTELLIGENCER -
With the decline in oil stores, we all become victims of money
http://www.intelligencer.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=1125606

GLOBE & MAIL -
Realistic goals in Afghanistan
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080723.weafghanistan23/BNStory/specialComment/home

NATIONAL POST -
Fantino's non-scandal
http://www.nationalpost.com/todays_paper/story.html?id=672819

HAMILTON SPECTATOR -
Smokes cloud bigger issues
http://www.thespec.com/Opinions/article/407634

ST. CATHARINES STANDARD -
Fluid testing wise initiative
http://www.thesudburystar.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=1126430

K-W RECORD -
Top general wise to speak frankly
http://news.therecord.com/Opinions/article/387716

SASKATOON STARPHOENIX -
Small overture by U.S. to Iran welcome move
http://www.canada.com/saskatoonstarphoenix/news/forum/story.html?id=60205899-8485-4353-923c-228a234f5c7e

REGINA LEADER-POST -
A manifesto's destiny
This week marks an important milestone in Canadian political history -- the 75th anniversary of the Regina Manifesto.
http://www.canada.com/reginaleaderpost/news/viewpoints/story.html?id=5ffd52d1-6071-473a-871d-99f2b87738d2

CALGARY HERALD -
Obama's Iraq timetable risky
http://www.canada.com/calgaryherald/news/theeditorialpage/story.html?id=0a9d44d7-c153-407a-80ec-bfd3aff8dc06

LETHBRIDGE HERALD -
It's not just crime that doesn't pay
http://www.lethbridgeherald.com/article_11454.php

VANCOUVER PROVINCE -
Let's end the excuses
http://www.canada.com/theprovince/news/editorial/story.html?id=70aec63d-d3db-4187-b881-96b3efcc2919


ISSUES

ABORIGINAL AFFAIRS -          
RCMP, aboriginal leaders hope weapons amnesty cuts violence on Alberta reserves
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/080723/national/gang_gun_amnesty


AFGHANISTAN -
Al-Qaeda's got a brand new bag
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/JG24Ak01.html

Afghans fight an addiction to heroin
The National (07/23/2008)

Pentagon plays down fears over Afghan violence
Reuters (07/23/2008)

Suspicion, terrain are foes for US in Afghan surge
The Associated Press (07/23/2008)

International community urged to fulfill its commitment
Pajhwok (07/23/2008)

New campaign to tackle stigma and misconceptions
IRIN (07/23/2008)

Insurgency, insecurity threaten health progress
IRIN (07/23/2008)

Plot to divide the Taliban foiled
Asia Times (07/23/2008)

Afghan secrets revealed on Google Earth
Sydney Morning Herald (07/23/2008)

There could be a third way in Afghanistan
Niles Daily Star, Editorial (07/23/2008)

The Pakghani Front
Wall Street Journal (07/23/2008)

Sky-high wheat prices have Afghan farmers crowing it's better than opium
The Canadian Press (07/23/2008)

Afghan president orders investigation of gang rapes
DPA (07/23/2008)

Kabul residents called on to collectively clean Afghan capital
AFP (07/23/2008)

Germany's Merkel To Tell Obama No More Troops For Afghanistan
AFP (07/23/2008)

Pakistani Network Broadcasts Rare Interview of Al-Qaida Commander in Afghanistan
Voice of America (07/23/2008)

Big changes for Afghanistan after US election, predicts expert
ABC News (07/23/2008)

A Wake-Up Call From Afghanistan
The Washington Post (07/23/2008)


CANADIAN FORCES
'In This Business, Three Years is a Long Time'
In an exclusive interview, new Chief of Defence Staff Walter Natynczyk addresses the deteriorating security situation and nascent successes of Canada's mission in Afghanistan. http://embassymag.ca/html/index.php?display=story&full_path=/2008/july/23/natynczyk/


CANUSA/USACAN
Western U.S. states join Canadian provinces to plan greenhouse gas limits
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/080723/national/us_cda_greenhouse_gases

U.S.-Canada carbon trading group eyes 2012 start
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/reuters/080724/n_canada_reuters/canada_usa_canada_carbon_col


ECONOMIC AFFAIRS
Globalizers lose their faith
Even former proponents full of doubt as crises ripple through system built on shaky pillars
http://www.thestar.com/comment/article/465404

Gasoline cost pushes up prices
http://www.reportonbusiness.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080723.wcpijune0723/BNStory/Business/home

CIBC faces lawsuit over subprime exposure
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/reuters/080723/n_canada_reuters/canada_cibc_lawsuit_col


FOREIGN AFFAIRS
China gets seat at the WTO's top trade talks table
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/World/2008/07/23/6240096-ap.html

Cdn sealing industry in doubt after EU proposes to ban seal products
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/080723/national/eu_cda_seal_hunt

Wary of China, Russians look West
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/JG24Ag01.html

AGRICULTURE-SOUTH AFRICA: Small Farmers Pushed to Plant GM Seed
http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=43256


HEALTH CARE RELATED
Survey to look at how many Canadians have potentially fatal food allergies
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/080723/national/food_allergies_study


JUSTICE SYSTEM
Stop the presses! Crime rates are falling
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20080723.COSIMP23/TPStory/National/columnists


MIGRATION
Four in 10 immigrants send money home after arrival in Canada: StatsCan
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/080723/national/statscan_immigrants


POLITICS IN THE PROVINCES
PST exemptions extended for bikes, appliances
http://www.thestar.com/News/Ontario/article/465700

Government spin on forest industry not new
http://www.canada.com/victoriatimescolonist/news/comment/story.html?id=0030d2dd-27fe-4c08-8616-5d2658cd4901


Election expenses - The CEO wants to tackle the activities on the Web
http://translate.google.ca/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ledevoir.com%2F2008%2F07%2F23%2F198858.html&sl=fr&tl=en&hl=en&ie=UTF-8


PARTY POLITICS
Tory ad scheme in Quebec was illegal, watchdog says
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20080723.ADS23/TPStory/TPNational/Politics/

Dion touts tariffs on countries that are 'free-riders'
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080723.wdion0723/BNStory/National/home

Canadians hungry for a federal election this fall, says Liberal leader
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/080723/national/dion_elxn

Canadians' growing hungrier for election, says Dion
Harper expected to call three by-elections in September
http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=675159

Opposition leader still coy on election
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/reuters/080723/n_canada_reuters/canada_election_canada_col

Taxpayers could share in windfall
Spectrum Auction; Harper Cabinet mulls how to spend $4.3B
http://www.nationalpost.com/todays_paper/story.html?id=672803

Crackdown on collusion
http://www.ottawasun.com/News/National/2008/07/23/6237756-sun.html

It's time to recalibrate Canada's mission
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080722.wcoafghan22/BNStory/specialComment/


POLITICAL OPINION -
Campaign finance curiosities
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080722.WBwbradwanski20080722122710/WBStory/WBwbradwanski/

Wireless Jim's failed auction
http://www.nationalpost.com/opinion/columnists/story.html?id=12812dd0-b74f-4d09-9bd7-9a8b7132f701

Byelections big test for Dion
http://dailygleaner.canadaeast.com/article/362652

Nobody green in envy over Liberal plan, opposition says
http://www.westislandchronicle.com/article-234193-Nobody-green-in-envy-over-Liberal-plan-opposition-says.html

From afar, Harper shines
http://www.canada.com/windsorstar/news/editorial/story.html?id=a0d63f0f-5d76-46ce-a732-2f3932c4af10


PROGRAMMES
Ottawa would transfer to industry Food Inspection
http://translate.google.ca/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cyberpresse.ca%2Farticle%2F20080723%2FCPACTUALITES%2F80722229%2F1025%2FCPACTUALITES&sl=fr&tl=en&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

Safety checks inadequate for imported food, study says
http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/story.html?id=95ccb557-113b-44e0-a642-a271760ab4a7

Health report to get 'low-profile' release
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080723.wclimate23/BNStory/National/home

Public safety minister approves delayed crime-gun reporting requirements
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/080723/national/gun_regulations

Canada on the brink of 'absolute crisis' in homeless funding, advocates say
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/080723/national/homeless_crisis

Ottawa announces new labelling rules for food allergens in prepackaged foods
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/080723/national/food_labelling

Ottawa urged to curb mine waste in water
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080723.wtailings0723/BNStory/National/?page=rss&id=RTGAM.20080723.wtailings0723

Large gaps in safety of imported food: report
http://www.nationalpost.com/todays_paper/story.html?id=672806


OPINION AND INFORMATION
Autocratic, by design
The Chinese and Russians may have lost their faith in communism. But that doesn't mean they're ready to embrace democracy
http://www.nationalpost.com/opinion/story.html?id=672879

A war no one wants
http://www.nationalpost.com/opinion/story.html?id=672881

Guantanamo justice
http://www.nationalpost.com/opinion/story.html?id=670416

Paving the way for 'soft jihad'
http://www.nationalpost.com/todays_paper/story.html?id=672818

Plague of compassion
Khadr's family made Canada a 'laughing
http://www.winnipegsun.com/News/Columnists/Marshall_Robert/2008/07/23/6238756-sun.html

He's no poster boy for Canucks in foreign jails
http://www.torontosun.com/News/Columnists/Worthington_Peter/2008/07/23/6236736.php

Vancouver smoking ban billows to great outdoors
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080723.wbcsmoking23/BNStory/National/home

Imported idea gains momentum
http://www.thestar.com/comment/article/465410

Put spam in the can
It's time Ottawa acted on text messaging
http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news/editorial/story.html?id=2efa79d8-af36-4ba2-a4ae-cf17dd8b5d20

Lament for TransCanada
http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/opinion/story.html?id=01368566-5ac7-4e54-ac87-0b450852d408

All style, little substance
http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/opinion/story.html?id=786ddfc4-3302-4b69-baf3-bea01ee25666

Give Canadians right to use arms in self-defence
http://www.canada.com/windsorstar/news/editorial/story.html?id=7e83b93f-7bd7-4035-a0f9-82f1aaffb442

Eventually, we will all hate Obama too
What makes America such an indispensable power is precisely what makes anti-Americanism inevitable
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/david_aaronovitch/article4374704.ece


INFOS 
Jeux Olympiques de Pékin
L'unilinguisme du porte-drapeau canadien critiqué
http://www.radio-canada.ca/nouvelles/National/2008/07/23/002-porte-drapeau-unilingue.shtml

Stéphane Dion estime que les Canadiens sont prêts à aller en élections cet automne
http://info.branchez-vous.com/Nationales/080723/N0723108AU.html

Ottawa annonce de nouvelles normes d'étiquetage des aliments transformés
http://info.branchez-vous.com/Nationales/080723/N0723119AU.html

La police devra inscrire les armes saisies au registre des armes à feu
http://info.branchez-vous.com/Nationales/080723/N0723181AU.html

Les répartiteurs de la GRC pourraient être paralysés en cas de désastre
http://info.branchez-vous.com/Nationales/080723/N0723191AU.html

Quatre immigrants sur dix envoient de l'argent vers leurs pays d'origine
http://info.branchez-vous.com/Nationales/080723/N072385AU.html

Chasse au phoque
Nicolas Sarkozy embrasse la cause de B.B.
http://www.radio-canada.ca/regions/est-quebec/2008/07/23/001-chasse-phoque.asp

Ottawa céderait à l'industrie l'inspection des aliments
http://www.cyberpresse.ca/article/20080723/CPACTUALITES/80722229/1025/CPACTUALITES

Ottawa modifie l'étiquetage des aliments transformés
http://www.cyberpresse.ca/article/20080723/CPACTUALITES/80723157/1025/CPACTUALITES

Dépenses électorales - Le DGE veut s'attaquer aux activités sur le Web
http://www.ledevoir.com/2008/07/23/198858.html

La Teoria Conspiratoria
Black Project Aircraft Caught On Camera
http://pimpinturtle.com/2008/07/23/video-black-project-aircraft-caught-on-camera.aspx

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Security and Prosperity Partnership

The plan embraces the American model, which requires that the federal inspectors only play a supervisory role while it is the power companies who check themselves the quality of what they produce.
http://translate.google.ca/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cyberpresse.ca%2Farticle%2F20080723%2FCPACTUALITES%2F80722229%2F1025%2FCPACTUALITES&sl=fr&tl=en&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

In what manner does this harmonization with the American's enhance security?

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From: "Peggy Merritt"

Hi Joe:  How many Liberal messes are the minority Conservative
Government expected to clean up.  I can just see the lawyers in
Canada lining up to get their hands on the Khadr case should he be
brought back to Canada.  It would be in the courts for 20 years, a
real cash cow! Peggy

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From: "Rebecca Gingrich"
Subject: Common Sense and Windfalls

Joe--WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE THE GOVERNMENT DO WITH THE WINDFALL?
  'For this purpose would it not make more sense to place the money into a
special emergency fund rather than into "general revenue" to cushion
economic turbulence'?
You defeat your question by using the word 'common sense'!  Common sense
died a long time ago when you speak about governments.  Of course, those of
us that have to work for our money(so we can hand it over to the government)
know that you have to be ready for a rainy day.  The government has no
concept of that.  It always has a steady flow of money for it's own use, and
there are always suckers to tax harder and higher to keep the flow into
General Revenue flowing!
There is an ad that runs on TV and radio here re Ontario grown produce.  It
ends by stating the ad is 'brought to you by the government of Ontario.' 
That is a lie--it is 'brought to us by our own hard earned money' that has
been given to favourite ad companies of the government.  Are we so obtuse
that we don't know that the producers here grow their product in Ontario? 
Then two days ago a hydro substation blew up and rendered a huge apartment
building unliveable.  This is just one example of government 'common sense'.
General revenue gives politicians more to play with, and give themselves
exhorbitant raises.  They are entitled to their entitlements and who are we
to complain or demand common sense?
Of course I agree that all governments, instead of slurrping around for more
'izzy money' should be upholding their mandate to protect the citizen and
govern honestly.  But dream on--it ain't going to happen as long as we keep
sleeping.  They are so effective at removing our rights that they don't have
time to fulfill their mandate.

becky

Subject: Health Canada and CFIA incompetence

This proves that Bill C-51 is just ridiculous. Those responsible for our
food can't even get their inspections right, and now they wanto control
natural products too? Just like with the botched breast cancer tests in
NFLD. they will write new rules and all will be well. Ridiculous. If they
can't do their job properly now, what will a new list of rules do for
anyone?
becky

Large gaps in safety of imported food: report Health Canada
http://www.nationalpost.com/todays_paper/story.html?id=672806

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From: "Rene Moreau"

To Joe
From Rene Moreau (416-489-8347)
re; the peices by Becky Gingrich and Ron Thornton and the National Energy  Program

   It is getting VERY  obvious how the evils of the NEP are being
pushed to hide the screwing over that Alberta is getting from ameroil
corporations.

   We, in Ontario, who apparently know nothing, watch as Rob Love
manhandled  premier Klein to make sure he never mentioned raising
royalty rates to Ameroil corp. and when Stelmach said HE would raise
royalties rates they  stomped on him with many many feet! They even
used Canadian oil names to cover their presence and object in the
papers  to the Canadian  readers, thinking we were too stupid to see
the subterfuge!

   Why is it alright to get screwed by the neighbours corporations,
but not to share with the rest of Canada?

   If Alberta and Canada were working together,  against  ameroil,
instead of falling for the old divide and conquer ploy of  U.S.ian
corporation, couldn't the royalty rates be increased? Currently, it's
embarrassing to watch our people getting conned.

   Start reading military history to get a hint of what's happening.

    By the way, I live in Toronto proper, breath the air, leave the
windows open at night, and drink the water from Lake Ontario.( after
it has been treated, muchly)  Come and visit us some time, don't take
the word of the right-wingers in the west.

                                   Rene Moreau (416-489-8347)

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Daily Digest July 22, 2008

The DAILY DIGEST: INFORMATION and OPINION from ST. JOHN'S to VICTORIA.
ARCHIVED at http://cdndailydigest.blogspot.com/

EDITORIALs

ST.JOHN'S TELEGRAM -
Assessing the risk
http://www.thetelegram.com/index.cfm?sid=155049&sc=80

CORNER BROOK WESTERN STAR -
Careful what you're doing
http://www.thewesternstar.com/index.cfm?sid=155021&sc=30

CAPE BRETON POST -
Labour mobility given a boost
http://www.capebretonpost.com/index.cfm?sid=154881&sc=151

HALIFAX CHRONICLE HERALD -
N.S. attacks carbon tax
http://thechronicleherald.ca/Editorial/1068869.html

AMHERST DAILY NEWS -
Accusation misses the mark
http://www.amherstdaily.com/index.cfm?sid=154942&sc=61

MONTREAL GAZETTE -
Tories are right to ignore the Kelowna Accord
http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news/editorial/story.html?id=75e082fe-506f-4270-b077-10a2b5d5f061

BELLEVILLE INTELLIGENCER -
Praise Fantino, don't bury him
http://www.intelligencer.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=1123647

TORONTO STAR -
Conflicting messages
http://www.thestar.com/comment/article/464650

GLOBE & MAIL -
Harper can take action on Khadr
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080722.wekhadr22/BNStory/specialComment/home

NATIONAL POST -
He died for a good cause
http://www.nationalpost.com/opinion/story.html?id=670365

TORONTO SUN -
Crime's victims don't count
http://www.torontosun.com/Comment/Commentary/2008/07/22/6226051-sun.html

HAMILTON SPECTATOR -
A ray of hope in Caledonia
http://www.thespec.com/Opinions/article/406826

NIAGARA FALLS REVIEW -
Progress is being made through war efforts in Afghanistan
http://www.niagarafallsreview.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=1124011

K-W RECORD -
Ontario Provincial Police Commissioner Julian Fantino clearly... read more
http://news.therecord.com/Opinions/article/386958

WINDSOR STAR -
Afghanistan
More U.S. boots on the ground
http://www.canada.com/windsorstar/news/editorial/story.html?id=4ed742cd-bbaa-4412-9844-19a38ed56a65

SUDBURY STAR -
Province jumped the gun on announcement
http://www.thesudburystar.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=1124415

WINNIPEG FREE PRESS -
Let's do this job
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/editorial/story/4202281p-4794133c.html

REGINA LEADER-POST -
Time not always the best medicine
http://www.canada.com/reginaleaderpost/news/viewpoints/story.html?id=50dae436-f997-480f-9665-44ec1bc75234

CALGARY HERALD -
Fostering self-sufficiency
http://www.canada.com/calgaryherald/news/theeditorialpage/story.html?id=7655bf25-2abb-4509-b94b-d6101a9165bf

GRANDE PRAIRIE DAILY HERALD TRIBUNE -
Fix the victim surcharge
Law is there, why aren't we using it?
http://www.dailyheraldtribune.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=1124868

LETHBRIDGE HERALD -
Labour is already quite mobile
http://www.lethbridgeherald.com/article_11441.php

VANCOUVER SUN -
Labour mobility deal will enhance competitiveness
B.C.'s Campbell and Alberta's Stelmach deserve praise for getting other premiers to sign up
http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/editorial/story.html?id=474a8f61-b7f7-46f7-89b8-76b4dc9a3b88

VANCOUVER PROVINCE -
It's time to stop gov't butting in
http://www.canada.com/theprovince/news/editorial/story.html?id=ffcfe777-ae30-43a3-b915-de95127e4d19


ISSUES

ABORIGINAL AFFAIRS -          
We want full participation'
http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news/story.html?id=aa7b2ce2-2032-4e04-b2e5-eeba1df3e6d5

Feds putting $100-million towards Sask. First Nations family services
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/080722/national/sask_family_support


AFGHANISTAN -
Diplomacy is the only long-term solution in Afghanistan
http://news.therecord.com/Opinions/article/386922

Time to recalibrate the Afghan mission
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080722.wcoafghan22/BNStory/specialComment/home

Plot to divide the Taliban foiled
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/JG23Df01.html

Al-Qaeda leader in rare TV interview
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7518763.stm

Hard man in a hard country
The Guardian (07/22/2008)

When Spies Don't Play Well With Their Allies
The New York Times (07/22/2008)

Afghanistan Doesn't Need a 'Surge'
Wall Street Journal (07/22/2008)

How US policies failed in Pakistan, Afghanistan
Middle East Online (07/22/2008)

Taliban kill Afghan provincial govt spokesman: official
AFP (07/22/2008)

Suicide blast in Afghan capital wounds five
AFP (07/22/2008)

Security in Afghanistan
The New York Times - Opinion (07/20/2008)

U.S. and NATO strikes exact heavy toll in Afghanistan
The New York Times (07/20/2008)

Kabul road blockages anger residents
Qoqnoos (07/20/2008)


CANUSA/USACAN
Water pact will deplete Great Lakes, expert fears
http://www.thestar.com/News/Ontario/article/464750

U.S. ENDOWMENT FOR FOESTRY AND COMMUNITIES RELEASES FOREST INVESTMENT ZONES CALL FOR PRE-PROPOSALS
http://www.ewire.com/display.cfm/Wire_ID/4897


ECONOMIC AFFAIRS
Doha round in a `moment of truth'
http://www.thestar.com/News/Canada/article/464683

Political expediency may rule Doha deal
Canada risks having more to lose than to win from a successful trade negotiation
http://www.canada.com/edmontonjournal/news/opinion/story.html?id=a0f08f29-8102-4cd2-9a4b-bff9cf3cc76b

High gas prices leading drivers to keep cars parked
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20080722/statscan_retail_080722/20080722?s_name=Autos

Meltdown fallout evident
http://www.nationalpost.com/opinion/columnists/story.html?id=6b3ef3d9-c495-46e7-8482-7a9bcd67969e


FOREIGN AFFAIRS
How to win the global war on terror
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/subscriber/westview/story/4202312p-4794097c.html

Set to self-destruct
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/subscriber/westview/story/4202311p-4794085c.html

A small step in Iran's nuclear talks
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/JG23Ak01.html


HEALTH CARE RELATED
Antibiotic ignorance leads to drug-resistant superbugs
http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/story.html?id=7212433f-6001-4165-a6db-f959ceff8342


JUSTICE SYSTEM
Beyond harm reduction
Let's set aside ideology and agree on ways to counter drug abuse
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080721.wcodrugs22/BNStory/specialComment/home


POLITICS IN THE PROVINCES
No pressure on feds to join Western Climate Change Initiative, says B.C. premier
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/080721/national/campbell_climate_change

McGuinty to Ottawa: 'Take brakes off our economy'
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080722.wmcguinty0722/BNStory/National/home

Climate brinkmanship in Alberta, Saskatchewan
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20080722.COSIMP22/TPStory/National/columnists

Charest will help push for more French at Olympics
http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news/story.html?id=f9795a50-833f-434d-993f-ae69ac8c7797


PARTY POLITICS
Elections Canada claims Quebec Tories swapped campaign ad expenses to beat cap
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/080721/national/tories_in_out

Harper poised to set Sept. date for 3 byelections
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20080722/sept_byelexns_080722/20080722?hub=QPeriod


POLITICAL OPINION -
Campaign finance curiousities
Anyone got a catchy, vaguely suggestive name for this one?
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080722.WBwbradwanski20080722122710/WBStory/WBwbradwanski/

House Ethics Committee wants to dig deeper into 'in and out' campaign funding
http://www.thehilltimes.ca/html/cover_index.php?display=story&full_path=/2008/july/21/ethics_committee/&c=1

Libs have 'information job to do' on carbon tax plan, getting 'feedback' on diesel prices
http://www.thehilltimes.ca/html/cover_index.php?display=story&full_path=/2008/july/21/carbon_tax/&c=1

Giorno's PMO appoints three new Cabinet chiefs of staff
Industry Minister Jim Prentice, Immigration Minister Diane Finley and Agriculture minister Gerry Ritz hire new chiefs of staff.
http://www.thehilltimes.ca/html/cover_index.php?display=story&full_path=/2008/july/21/giorno/&c=1

Canada Throws Ecuador into Reverse
When a little nation reined in big miners, our ambassador got very political.
http://thetyee.ca/News/2008/07/11/CanMining/?utm_source=mondayheadlines&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=210708


PROGRAMMES
Ottawa ponders use of telco cash
http://www.reportonbusiness.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080722.wprentice0722/BNStory/Business/home

Canada plans another wireless spectrum auction
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/reuters/080722/canada/canada_wireless_prentice_col

Canada concerned about wireless spectrum "hoarding"
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/reuters/080722/canada/canada_wireless_licenses_col

Afghan goals downgraded, defence files showComment135
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080722.wafghan22/BNStory/Afghanistan/home

Information Commissioner appeals restrictive ruling
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080722.waccess22/BNStory/National/home

Canada's electrical system 'requires billions'
Aging system at risk of crumbling under soaring demand
http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/story.html?id=54e8fe35-5f37-453a-a736-04ab530c5c4a


PRESSURE POINTS
Until the cause of climate change is proven, the debate must go on
http://www.canada.com/theprovince/columnists/story.html?id=34aad756-efc0-4672-91af-e3494da32f45

No smoking hot spot
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24036736-7583,00.html

Human waste proposed as source of natural gas 
http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/story.html?id=47e363c0-1b3b-4a5b-81b5-ae45ea0a9853

The answer is in the wind
http://news.therecord.com/Opinions/article/386921

Gore getting desperate proof public cooling on GW hoax
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/4072


OPINION AND INFORMATION
The Company Muslims Keep
http://www.nationalpost.com/opinion/columnists/story.html?id=0b5adf8f-98af-4111-a04b-cb257eb08fa3

What we mean by 'repayable loans'
http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=70e6dff5-1937-4d08-9632-f3808a2882c1

Dividing the catch
http://www.nationalpost.com/opinion/story.html?id=670417

The stuff of dreams
When the Cold War ended, optimists believed history had reached its final, peaceful resting point. In the first of five excerpts from The Return of History and the End of Dreams, author Robert Kagan explains how this delusion was born http://www.nationalpost.com/opinion/story.html?id=670418

Reports of automobile's death premature
http://www.canada.com/windsorstar/news/editorial/story.html?id=3a87f270-e912-4818-b34c-1c42332b83e4

Crackdown on fake drugs urged
For each U.S. death from tainted drugs, there are thousands of similar tragic stories around the globe
http://www.canada.com/windsorstar/news/editorial/story.html?id=852f12ed-bc8d-4df6-80d9-bbaa7867fbdc

Watch out! Here comes the sun
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080722.wcowente22/BNStory/specialComment/home

Cigarette Smuggling
The attic of the SQ
http://translate.google.ca/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.radio-canada.ca%2Fregions%2FMontreal%2F2008%2F07%2F22%2F006-contrebande-entrepot-SQ_n.shtml&sl=fr&tl=en&hl=en&ie=UTF-8


INFOS 
Ottawa n'est pas obligé de rejoindre la Western Climate Initiative, dit Campbell
http://info.branchez-vous.com/Nationales/080721/N0721114AU.html

Mort d'une décharge de Taser
http://www.radio-canada.ca/regions/manitoba/2008/07/22/006-mort-taser_n.shtml

Contrebande de cigarettes
Le grenier de la SQ
http://www.radio-canada.ca/regions/Montreal/2008/07/22/006-contrebande-entrepot-SQ_n.shtml

Terre-Neuve
L'autre solitude
http://archives.radio-canada.ca/politique/provincial_territorial/dossiers/31/

Téléphonie sans fil
4,2 milliards à dépenser
http://www.radio-canada.ca/nouvelles/Economie-Affaires/2008/07/22/003-4,2milliards-sansfil.shtml

Recherche et développement
La santé toujours une priorité au Canada
http://www.radio-canada.ca/nouvelles/societe/2008/07/22/001-recherche-dev-sante.shtml

Une nouvelle loi pour des décisions gouvernementales plus vertes
http://www.cyberpresse.ca/article/20080722/CPACTUALITES/807220418/1025/CPACTUALITES

Le PC a attribué des dépenses de candidats-clés à d'autres
http://www.cyberpresse.ca/article/20080721/CPACTUALITES/80721176/1025/CPACTUALITES


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WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE THE GOVERNMENT DO WITH THE WINDFALL?

Questions:
The Feds have concluded the wireless spectrum auction with $4.25B in bids. Rather than going into general revenue ought not this one time windfall be better spent on a needed project of lasting value? 

This article Billions needed to fix Canada's electric grid lays out the increasing demands being placed on an Canada's aging electricity infrastructure. Is it not  preferable to ensure "generation stations, transmission and distribution lines do not collapse under an exploding demand"?

This direction must be considered preferable to providing a government that is leaving the Employment Insurance Fund only $2 billion out of a $56 billion surplus with "a comfortable financial cushion if the country hits any economic turbulence."  For this purpose would it not make more sense to place the money into a special emergency fund rather than into "general revenue" to cushion economic turbulence?  Could it be that putting the money into "general revenue" is more useful as "financial cushion" with a potential election in mind?

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From: "Mel Christian"
Subject: The to health of all  has been compromised by greed.

To Joe & the world;
 
The health of the population is in jeopardy because those with the power to suppress can & are allowed to control/hold their market for ransom.
 
Health is very big and power full.
 
That massive force has prevented the tried and proven methods from being understood & distributed.
 
The source of maintaining good health is within the libraries of this world, available to all that will exercise their rights.
 
This knowledge has been developed, proven, printed, distributed, and suppressed, but it is still available to all.
 
Preventing the epidemics of fear in anyone or the world is what truth & knowledge is all about.
 
Our Canadian legislators are trying very hard to abrogate their responsibility through   Bill  C 51 and Bill C 52.
 
Ignorance is not an excise that puts anyone on high ground, especially the elected.
 
The question we need to ask everyone including the space between our ears is will we let them get away with it?
 
Mel Christian
 
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From: "Rebecca Gingrich"
Subject:  DD
Peak Oil - True or False
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=8260

Joe--as shown above, 'peak oil' and oil shortage has about the same 'facts'
as GW! Peak oil was predicted first for 1956. Now it is being predicted
again. If we were honest,and informed, we would see that this is pure and
utter manipulation, just like GW. Hey, it makes money for those alarmists
just like it does for Al Gore, who BTW, has a bigger carbon footprint than
the majority of humans on the planet. I hope everyone reads Lorne Gunter's
column in the NP today.

As for fighting words. Raising fears of another NEP is NOT fearmongering.
Ever hear the statement 'once burned, twice shy'? There is nothing
desperate or false about denouncing Dion's Green Shaft. Not one person has
been able to explain how this would impact CO2 and GW.
Now, you mention that oil companies are 'devastating great swaths of land'!
Well, that is because oil is underground. Would be stupid to look to the
sky, wouldn't it? The msm has greatly exaggerated what is really happening.
Isn't it odd that when a spill occurs in Alberta it is done on purpose,
but when spills occur in Ontario or Quebec it was not avoidable. Do some
reading on the Sidney Tar Ponds in NS. Do some reading on the mercury that
was dumped into the water in N Ontario as the result of gold mining. And
who can forget Elliot Lake? Massive spills from industry in Ontario have
contaminated Hamilton Harbour, and the St. Claire River. The St. Claire
river 'spill' (it wasn't a spill, it was normal practice)caused 6
communities to have 'boil water' advisories--which was ludicrous because all
that does is concentrate the chemical in the drinking water. But only
Alberta is guilty of destruction. Hamilton has had smoke stacks on their
steel mills that have been leaking for years. Raw sewage runs into most
rivers in Ontario when there is rainfall. These are just a few of the
contaminations that come immediately to mind in Ontario. Not to mention gas
tanks leaking into ground water from gas stations in Stratford and many
other locations.
So don't use the Tar Sands as the boogey man to justify Green Shaft--oops I
for got to add the THE--wouldn't want to get sued!
I lived in Alberta under the NEP. Thousands of people lost their jobs,
their homes and everything they owned. Ontario will feel some of the same
things with the car plants closing. Car plants that are producing pollution
and producing pollution causing vehicles. Try taking a deep breath in
Ontario. You will choke on many days. It is hard to tell the difference
between Hamilton, Toronto and China. I get physically ill going to Toronto
because of the pollution. Needless to say I don't go very often.
Canada is NOT a democratic country--and it is far from stable.
Alberta owes the country nothing. Not once while living in Alberta did I get
an Ontario made car cheaper because this is Canada. Not once did Ontario
come to the aid of Alberta in the first Depression. It was NFLD that helped
Alberta. Ontario thumbed its nose at Alberta.
Sorry, this 'man'(John Moore) is TOTALLY wrong--and the only thing green
about The Green Shaft is Ontario's jealousy.
To suggest there is any 'vision' in either the provincial or federal
governments is a mis-statement. There is no vision in any level of
government, only the vision of tax dollars dancing in their heads.
Crisis means Opportunity? Well, this 'crisis' is a generated crisis, and if
opportunity means freezing in the dark, I guess that is as good a word as
any for it!
becky

FACTS or FIGHTING WORDS?

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From: Ron Thornton

Hi Joe:

I was just skimming through the Monday Daily Digest when I came across an article from the Regina paper written by my ole GUARD comrade Christine Whitaker. The piece, entitled "Dion Fans Separatist Sentiment in West" is dead on. If this man ever become Prime Minister of this country, it will provide final proof to many in these parts that too many of those in the rest of this vast land (points east) are just too far gone.  Dion is a guy who as the so-called unity minister showed the west that he was nothing more than a condescending SOB. His present wealth distribution scheme, dressed up as a environmental measure that he admits would hit Alberta and Saskatchewan right between the eyes, would appear, in retrospect, the next logical move for this twit. If this is the kind of leader the rest of Canada choses as its own, then there is a distinct possibility that I'd become an unrepentant western separatist till the day I die.

Meanwhile, the National Post's "Do As Al Says, Not As Al Does" article again brings to mind how hypocritical and utterly out to lunch Kyoto proponents seem to be. It is bad enough that we are getting screwed by Big Oil (or how else can you explain why oil prices are going up even though world-wide demand is going down due to those rising prices?), that we don't need to also get screwed over by a bunch of opportunists who, by their own actions, further undermine their arguments of impending man-made climatic doom.  I have a suspicion the technology is already out there to greatly reduce our reliance on oil in the transportation industry, just to name one, but for a bunch of self serving reasons there simply isn't the will to place such alternatives within reach of our dirty hands just yet. In short, we are just getting fed bullshit from both sides and I'm not buying it. The price is just too damn high.

In the meantime, as reported in the British Independent article, there is always the threat of a flu pandemic that could kill you and yours that causes me more concern than carbon foot prints.  I would think if something of that nature comes to pass, as it did about 90 years ago, it probably would be best that I be among the first to go. If I stayed, and my family went instead, I suspect it might have a rather negative influence on my demeanor.

Now, with all that said, I come to your comments, Joe, that got me to the keyboard in the first place. If I remember right, the result of the NEP was that it screwed Alberta's economy and a lot of people paid the price. If Dion's Green Shift (a slogan they actually stole from an organization!), does the same, then it would seem to me that a comparison between the two initiatives would be rather prudent. Quite frankly, to advocate otherwise comes across as rather dishonest. I mean, a National Post reporter states that only foreign corporations would be taxed, its affects not touching ordinary Albertans? Bullshit. If there was any measure of truth in that, even though it seems totally illogical on the face of it to even to propose, I'm guessing some Liberal politician might have mentioned that before. Maybe I missed something.

As for Alberta and Saskatchewan getting all the riches they constitutionally have the right to enjoy, while the rest being burdened, as mentioned in the article, by carbon emissions (yah, they are still hacking in Sudbury from all that Alberta smoke), at least we have a couple of "have" provinces. If that weren't the case, we all would be welfare states in need of a new sugar daddy. As for any additional taxation, I don't trust the guys I vote for to spend tax dollars with any speck of intelligence, never mind the firm of Dion and Hacks.

As for real pollution (which Kyoto does not cover), or corporate welfare (surprisingly not involving Bombardier or Air Canada this time), or producing crude to send to Americans to refine rather than doing it here ourselves, these are issues I also have some concerns about. The fact that, like on the federal level, the opposition parties in Alberta can't find a leader or provide alternative policy that any intelligent creature could even consider, forget about voting for, leaves even us frustrated as hell.

Ron

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From: "Jacob Rempel"
Subject:  Dear Editor, Cape Breton Post
 
I just sent the following to the Editor, Cape Breton Post
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Dear Editor, Cape Breton Post
You raised the right issues in your editorial when you wrote,
"Khadr had been immersed in the ideology of radical jihad
since the age of nine by his father, Ahmed Said Khadr,
who should be going on trial ­ for child abuse."
 
A friend asked me whether I thought young Omar should be
brought home to face trial. There are so many things wrong
with those Guantanamo detentions that it's hard to know
where to start or stop a discussion.
 
In the very first place, Quantanamo as a piece of land
should have been returned to Cuba a hundred years ago,
but that's another story. With respect to Omar Khadr's
situation, I replied to my friend's query as follows:

1. The Guantanamo prison should not exist.
2. All prisoners should be released from this torture chamber.
3. Omar Khadr was a child when his parents and Al Quaida
    trained him to be a child soldier. He was at that time not
    criminally responsible. When US soldiers captured him,
    they should have sent him to Canada immediately, 
    where a family court could remove him from his parents'
    custody, and turn him over to child protection services for
    re-education. The Liberal government failed to insist
    on this. Canada has failed a lot of Canadians in foreign
    prisons, and the Conservatives now continue this disgrace.
 
Jacob Rempel, Vancouver

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From: "Rebecca Gingrich"
Subject: Canada test case for internet control?
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=9627

A ps to this posting--I know that NFLD was not a province of Canada at the
time but they were still the only people that sent food to Alberta during
the devestation of the Dirty 30s.
becky

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From: Rubie Britton
Subject: "Children"

If you have small children in your
life, you must protect them.

Start with this video:
http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/376.html

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From: Benji, Regina

It is apparent we too have adopted the idea that young Omar Khadr is guilty so why the need for a trial?  I find this strange however when I consider what has happened in the United States with regular citizens it becomes easier to swallow. There are far too many young men in prison in the US and when one cares to look a good number are not guilty. Like duhhhh.

Omar is entitled to a fair trial right? Is that possible? No, in my opinion. The United States want to ensure they have young Omar and have done their best to get a verdict of guilty, in my opinion.

Remember the US does not torture prisoners! Now that is the biggest  fertilized white lie I've heard. Tell the truth however make sure you know the definition as many trip over their white lie, now. How or why would one of the major players resign when he learns the US will not tell the truth on water-boarding? This is not some sport it is torture plain and simple.

I again state our Prime Minister has his nose stuck so far up the US Presidents behind we are blinded to what is happening. We are so entwined into the affairs of the US we blindly go along with what we are told today.

Previous PM's erred too. This matter should have been addressed long before now. This however does not allow our present PM to get off the hook.

Let us remember too all the good things our troops were in this for.  You know, peace civility and all the rest. Seems there was no mention of a pipeline was there. How convenient. The Canadian public were massaged to believe we were only there to help the people.

How then did a pipe line OIL get into this? I wonder and shake my head. Once again, in my opinion we've been duped. Sure it is right we help this nation be as free as ours however when the oil situation rears its ugly head we are there to protect those players and if we do help others out… it's a bonus. The fact remains we are in Afghanistan as the result of oil plain and simple.

The truth if it were told would have been nice. Those who lost their lives might have felt much different if it were known we are mainly there to protect once again American interests.

One last point... given the might of the US I find it strange they have yet found Bin Laden. Could it be they don't want to? Why, to help nurture what is going on in Afghanistan?

Benji

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From: "R. Gagne"
Subject: Re:DD

Joe:

I'm with Becky on this one.

The good John Moore was a little selective in his presentation regarding
the major damage done to the Alberta economy by the NEP. That occurred
in 1982, four years before oil prices really tanked in 1986.

I was with the then Employment and Immigration Commission at the time
and the funding we had to provide for unemployment insurance in the
province tripled in a fifteen month period beginning in 1982.

The damage to the Alberta economy caused by the NEP was real. Good,
hard-working people lost their jobs, their homes, and sometimes their
families because of it. The trauma was genuine and not the creation of
an over-heated imagination or fear-mongering in the West.

The kind of patronizing and condescending clap-trap spouted by Moore
does nothing to resolve the real issues we face in this country,
although I support his right to do so.

Real

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From: Joseph Common Ground

Subject: YouTube - President Bush Is A Murderer?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtYotUN0VBk

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