Daily Digest July 22, 2008

The DAILY DIGEST: INFORMATION and OPINION from ST. JOHN'S to VICTORIA.
ARCHIVED at http://cdndailydigest.blogspot.com/

EDITORIALs

ST.JOHN'S TELEGRAM -
Assessing the risk
http://www.thetelegram.com/index.cfm?sid=155049&sc=80

CORNER BROOK WESTERN STAR -
Careful what you're doing
http://www.thewesternstar.com/index.cfm?sid=155021&sc=30

CAPE BRETON POST -
Labour mobility given a boost
http://www.capebretonpost.com/index.cfm?sid=154881&sc=151

HALIFAX CHRONICLE HERALD -
N.S. attacks carbon tax
http://thechronicleherald.ca/Editorial/1068869.html

AMHERST DAILY NEWS -
Accusation misses the mark
http://www.amherstdaily.com/index.cfm?sid=154942&sc=61

MONTREAL GAZETTE -
Tories are right to ignore the Kelowna Accord
http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news/editorial/story.html?id=75e082fe-506f-4270-b077-10a2b5d5f061

BELLEVILLE INTELLIGENCER -
Praise Fantino, don't bury him
http://www.intelligencer.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=1123647

TORONTO STAR -
Conflicting messages
http://www.thestar.com/comment/article/464650

GLOBE & MAIL -
Harper can take action on Khadr
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080722.wekhadr22/BNStory/specialComment/home

NATIONAL POST -
He died for a good cause
http://www.nationalpost.com/opinion/story.html?id=670365

TORONTO SUN -
Crime's victims don't count
http://www.torontosun.com/Comment/Commentary/2008/07/22/6226051-sun.html

HAMILTON SPECTATOR -
A ray of hope in Caledonia
http://www.thespec.com/Opinions/article/406826

NIAGARA FALLS REVIEW -
Progress is being made through war efforts in Afghanistan
http://www.niagarafallsreview.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=1124011

K-W RECORD -
Ontario Provincial Police Commissioner Julian Fantino clearly... read more
http://news.therecord.com/Opinions/article/386958

WINDSOR STAR -
Afghanistan
More U.S. boots on the ground
http://www.canada.com/windsorstar/news/editorial/story.html?id=4ed742cd-bbaa-4412-9844-19a38ed56a65

SUDBURY STAR -
Province jumped the gun on announcement
http://www.thesudburystar.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=1124415

WINNIPEG FREE PRESS -
Let's do this job
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/editorial/story/4202281p-4794133c.html

REGINA LEADER-POST -
Time not always the best medicine
http://www.canada.com/reginaleaderpost/news/viewpoints/story.html?id=50dae436-f997-480f-9665-44ec1bc75234

CALGARY HERALD -
Fostering self-sufficiency
http://www.canada.com/calgaryherald/news/theeditorialpage/story.html?id=7655bf25-2abb-4509-b94b-d6101a9165bf

GRANDE PRAIRIE DAILY HERALD TRIBUNE -
Fix the victim surcharge
Law is there, why aren't we using it?
http://www.dailyheraldtribune.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=1124868

LETHBRIDGE HERALD -
Labour is already quite mobile
http://www.lethbridgeherald.com/article_11441.php

VANCOUVER SUN -
Labour mobility deal will enhance competitiveness
B.C.'s Campbell and Alberta's Stelmach deserve praise for getting other premiers to sign up
http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/editorial/story.html?id=474a8f61-b7f7-46f7-89b8-76b4dc9a3b88

VANCOUVER PROVINCE -
It's time to stop gov't butting in
http://www.canada.com/theprovince/news/editorial/story.html?id=ffcfe777-ae30-43a3-b915-de95127e4d19


ISSUES

ABORIGINAL AFFAIRS -          
We want full participation'
http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news/story.html?id=aa7b2ce2-2032-4e04-b2e5-eeba1df3e6d5

Feds putting $100-million towards Sask. First Nations family services
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/080722/national/sask_family_support


AFGHANISTAN -
Diplomacy is the only long-term solution in Afghanistan
http://news.therecord.com/Opinions/article/386922

Time to recalibrate the Afghan mission
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080722.wcoafghan22/BNStory/specialComment/home

Plot to divide the Taliban foiled
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/JG23Df01.html

Al-Qaeda leader in rare TV interview
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7518763.stm

Hard man in a hard country
The Guardian (07/22/2008)

When Spies Don't Play Well With Their Allies
The New York Times (07/22/2008)

Afghanistan Doesn't Need a 'Surge'
Wall Street Journal (07/22/2008)

How US policies failed in Pakistan, Afghanistan
Middle East Online (07/22/2008)

Taliban kill Afghan provincial govt spokesman: official
AFP (07/22/2008)

Suicide blast in Afghan capital wounds five
AFP (07/22/2008)

Security in Afghanistan
The New York Times - Opinion (07/20/2008)

U.S. and NATO strikes exact heavy toll in Afghanistan
The New York Times (07/20/2008)

Kabul road blockages anger residents
Qoqnoos (07/20/2008)


CANUSA/USACAN
Water pact will deplete Great Lakes, expert fears
http://www.thestar.com/News/Ontario/article/464750

U.S. ENDOWMENT FOR FOESTRY AND COMMUNITIES RELEASES FOREST INVESTMENT ZONES CALL FOR PRE-PROPOSALS
http://www.ewire.com/display.cfm/Wire_ID/4897


ECONOMIC AFFAIRS
Doha round in a `moment of truth'
http://www.thestar.com/News/Canada/article/464683

Political expediency may rule Doha deal
Canada risks having more to lose than to win from a successful trade negotiation
http://www.canada.com/edmontonjournal/news/opinion/story.html?id=a0f08f29-8102-4cd2-9a4b-bff9cf3cc76b

High gas prices leading drivers to keep cars parked
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20080722/statscan_retail_080722/20080722?s_name=Autos

Meltdown fallout evident
http://www.nationalpost.com/opinion/columnists/story.html?id=6b3ef3d9-c495-46e7-8482-7a9bcd67969e


FOREIGN AFFAIRS
How to win the global war on terror
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/subscriber/westview/story/4202312p-4794097c.html

Set to self-destruct
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/subscriber/westview/story/4202311p-4794085c.html

A small step in Iran's nuclear talks
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/JG23Ak01.html


HEALTH CARE RELATED
Antibiotic ignorance leads to drug-resistant superbugs
http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/story.html?id=7212433f-6001-4165-a6db-f959ceff8342


JUSTICE SYSTEM
Beyond harm reduction
Let's set aside ideology and agree on ways to counter drug abuse
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080721.wcodrugs22/BNStory/specialComment/home


POLITICS IN THE PROVINCES
No pressure on feds to join Western Climate Change Initiative, says B.C. premier
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/080721/national/campbell_climate_change

McGuinty to Ottawa: 'Take brakes off our economy'
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080722.wmcguinty0722/BNStory/National/home

Climate brinkmanship in Alberta, Saskatchewan
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20080722.COSIMP22/TPStory/National/columnists

Charest will help push for more French at Olympics
http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news/story.html?id=f9795a50-833f-434d-993f-ae69ac8c7797


PARTY POLITICS
Elections Canada claims Quebec Tories swapped campaign ad expenses to beat cap
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/080721/national/tories_in_out

Harper poised to set Sept. date for 3 byelections
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20080722/sept_byelexns_080722/20080722?hub=QPeriod


POLITICAL OPINION -
Campaign finance curiousities
Anyone got a catchy, vaguely suggestive name for this one?
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080722.WBwbradwanski20080722122710/WBStory/WBwbradwanski/

House Ethics Committee wants to dig deeper into 'in and out' campaign funding
http://www.thehilltimes.ca/html/cover_index.php?display=story&full_path=/2008/july/21/ethics_committee/&c=1

Libs have 'information job to do' on carbon tax plan, getting 'feedback' on diesel prices
http://www.thehilltimes.ca/html/cover_index.php?display=story&full_path=/2008/july/21/carbon_tax/&c=1

Giorno's PMO appoints three new Cabinet chiefs of staff
Industry Minister Jim Prentice, Immigration Minister Diane Finley and Agriculture minister Gerry Ritz hire new chiefs of staff.
http://www.thehilltimes.ca/html/cover_index.php?display=story&full_path=/2008/july/21/giorno/&c=1

Canada Throws Ecuador into Reverse
When a little nation reined in big miners, our ambassador got very political.
http://thetyee.ca/News/2008/07/11/CanMining/?utm_source=mondayheadlines&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=210708


PROGRAMMES
Ottawa ponders use of telco cash
http://www.reportonbusiness.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080722.wprentice0722/BNStory/Business/home

Canada plans another wireless spectrum auction
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/reuters/080722/canada/canada_wireless_prentice_col

Canada concerned about wireless spectrum "hoarding"
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/reuters/080722/canada/canada_wireless_licenses_col

Afghan goals downgraded, defence files showComment135
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080722.wafghan22/BNStory/Afghanistan/home

Information Commissioner appeals restrictive ruling
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080722.waccess22/BNStory/National/home

Canada's electrical system 'requires billions'
Aging system at risk of crumbling under soaring demand
http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/story.html?id=54e8fe35-5f37-453a-a736-04ab530c5c4a


PRESSURE POINTS
Until the cause of climate change is proven, the debate must go on
http://www.canada.com/theprovince/columnists/story.html?id=34aad756-efc0-4672-91af-e3494da32f45

No smoking hot spot
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24036736-7583,00.html

Human waste proposed as source of natural gas 
http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/story.html?id=47e363c0-1b3b-4a5b-81b5-ae45ea0a9853

The answer is in the wind
http://news.therecord.com/Opinions/article/386921

Gore getting desperate proof public cooling on GW hoax
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/4072


OPINION AND INFORMATION
The Company Muslims Keep
http://www.nationalpost.com/opinion/columnists/story.html?id=0b5adf8f-98af-4111-a04b-cb257eb08fa3

What we mean by 'repayable loans'
http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=70e6dff5-1937-4d08-9632-f3808a2882c1

Dividing the catch
http://www.nationalpost.com/opinion/story.html?id=670417

The stuff of dreams
When the Cold War ended, optimists believed history had reached its final, peaceful resting point. In the first of five excerpts from The Return of History and the End of Dreams, author Robert Kagan explains how this delusion was born http://www.nationalpost.com/opinion/story.html?id=670418

Reports of automobile's death premature
http://www.canada.com/windsorstar/news/editorial/story.html?id=3a87f270-e912-4818-b34c-1c42332b83e4

Crackdown on fake drugs urged
For each U.S. death from tainted drugs, there are thousands of similar tragic stories around the globe
http://www.canada.com/windsorstar/news/editorial/story.html?id=852f12ed-bc8d-4df6-80d9-bbaa7867fbdc

Watch out! Here comes the sun
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080722.wcowente22/BNStory/specialComment/home

Cigarette Smuggling
The attic of the SQ
http://translate.google.ca/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.radio-canada.ca%2Fregions%2FMontreal%2F2008%2F07%2F22%2F006-contrebande-entrepot-SQ_n.shtml&sl=fr&tl=en&hl=en&ie=UTF-8


INFOS 
Ottawa n'est pas obligé de rejoindre la Western Climate Initiative, dit Campbell
http://info.branchez-vous.com/Nationales/080721/N0721114AU.html

Mort d'une décharge de Taser
http://www.radio-canada.ca/regions/manitoba/2008/07/22/006-mort-taser_n.shtml

Contrebande de cigarettes
Le grenier de la SQ
http://www.radio-canada.ca/regions/Montreal/2008/07/22/006-contrebande-entrepot-SQ_n.shtml

Terre-Neuve
L'autre solitude
http://archives.radio-canada.ca/politique/provincial_territorial/dossiers/31/

Téléphonie sans fil
4,2 milliards à dépenser
http://www.radio-canada.ca/nouvelles/Economie-Affaires/2008/07/22/003-4,2milliards-sansfil.shtml

Recherche et développement
La santé toujours une priorité au Canada
http://www.radio-canada.ca/nouvelles/societe/2008/07/22/001-recherche-dev-sante.shtml

Une nouvelle loi pour des décisions gouvernementales plus vertes
http://www.cyberpresse.ca/article/20080722/CPACTUALITES/807220418/1025/CPACTUALITES

Le PC a attribué des dépenses de candidats-clés à d'autres
http://www.cyberpresse.ca/article/20080721/CPACTUALITES/80721176/1025/CPACTUALITES


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WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE THE GOVERNMENT DO WITH THE WINDFALL?

Questions:
The Feds have concluded the wireless spectrum auction with $4.25B in bids. Rather than going into general revenue ought not this one time windfall be better spent on a needed project of lasting value? 

This article Billions needed to fix Canada's electric grid lays out the increasing demands being placed on an Canada's aging electricity infrastructure. Is it not  preferable to ensure "generation stations, transmission and distribution lines do not collapse under an exploding demand"?

This direction must be considered preferable to providing a government that is leaving the Employment Insurance Fund only $2 billion out of a $56 billion surplus with "a comfortable financial cushion if the country hits any economic turbulence."  For this purpose would it not make more sense to place the money into a special emergency fund rather than into "general revenue" to cushion economic turbulence?  Could it be that putting the money into "general revenue" is more useful as "financial cushion" with a potential election in mind?

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From: "Mel Christian"
Subject: The to health of all  has been compromised by greed.

To Joe & the world;
 
The health of the population is in jeopardy because those with the power to suppress can & are allowed to control/hold their market for ransom.
 
Health is very big and power full.
 
That massive force has prevented the tried and proven methods from being understood & distributed.
 
The source of maintaining good health is within the libraries of this world, available to all that will exercise their rights.
 
This knowledge has been developed, proven, printed, distributed, and suppressed, but it is still available to all.
 
Preventing the epidemics of fear in anyone or the world is what truth & knowledge is all about.
 
Our Canadian legislators are trying very hard to abrogate their responsibility through   Bill  C 51 and Bill C 52.
 
Ignorance is not an excise that puts anyone on high ground, especially the elected.
 
The question we need to ask everyone including the space between our ears is will we let them get away with it?
 
Mel Christian
 
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From: "Rebecca Gingrich"
Subject:  DD
Peak Oil - True or False
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=8260

Joe--as shown above, 'peak oil' and oil shortage has about the same 'facts'
as GW! Peak oil was predicted first for 1956. Now it is being predicted
again. If we were honest,and informed, we would see that this is pure and
utter manipulation, just like GW. Hey, it makes money for those alarmists
just like it does for Al Gore, who BTW, has a bigger carbon footprint than
the majority of humans on the planet. I hope everyone reads Lorne Gunter's
column in the NP today.

As for fighting words. Raising fears of another NEP is NOT fearmongering.
Ever hear the statement 'once burned, twice shy'? There is nothing
desperate or false about denouncing Dion's Green Shaft. Not one person has
been able to explain how this would impact CO2 and GW.
Now, you mention that oil companies are 'devastating great swaths of land'!
Well, that is because oil is underground. Would be stupid to look to the
sky, wouldn't it? The msm has greatly exaggerated what is really happening.
Isn't it odd that when a spill occurs in Alberta it is done on purpose,
but when spills occur in Ontario or Quebec it was not avoidable. Do some
reading on the Sidney Tar Ponds in NS. Do some reading on the mercury that
was dumped into the water in N Ontario as the result of gold mining. And
who can forget Elliot Lake? Massive spills from industry in Ontario have
contaminated Hamilton Harbour, and the St. Claire River. The St. Claire
river 'spill' (it wasn't a spill, it was normal practice)caused 6
communities to have 'boil water' advisories--which was ludicrous because all
that does is concentrate the chemical in the drinking water. But only
Alberta is guilty of destruction. Hamilton has had smoke stacks on their
steel mills that have been leaking for years. Raw sewage runs into most
rivers in Ontario when there is rainfall. These are just a few of the
contaminations that come immediately to mind in Ontario. Not to mention gas
tanks leaking into ground water from gas stations in Stratford and many
other locations.
So don't use the Tar Sands as the boogey man to justify Green Shaft--oops I
for got to add the THE--wouldn't want to get sued!
I lived in Alberta under the NEP. Thousands of people lost their jobs,
their homes and everything they owned. Ontario will feel some of the same
things with the car plants closing. Car plants that are producing pollution
and producing pollution causing vehicles. Try taking a deep breath in
Ontario. You will choke on many days. It is hard to tell the difference
between Hamilton, Toronto and China. I get physically ill going to Toronto
because of the pollution. Needless to say I don't go very often.
Canada is NOT a democratic country--and it is far from stable.
Alberta owes the country nothing. Not once while living in Alberta did I get
an Ontario made car cheaper because this is Canada. Not once did Ontario
come to the aid of Alberta in the first Depression. It was NFLD that helped
Alberta. Ontario thumbed its nose at Alberta.
Sorry, this 'man'(John Moore) is TOTALLY wrong--and the only thing green
about The Green Shaft is Ontario's jealousy.
To suggest there is any 'vision' in either the provincial or federal
governments is a mis-statement. There is no vision in any level of
government, only the vision of tax dollars dancing in their heads.
Crisis means Opportunity? Well, this 'crisis' is a generated crisis, and if
opportunity means freezing in the dark, I guess that is as good a word as
any for it!
becky

FACTS or FIGHTING WORDS?

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From: Ron Thornton

Hi Joe:

I was just skimming through the Monday Daily Digest when I came across an article from the Regina paper written by my ole GUARD comrade Christine Whitaker. The piece, entitled "Dion Fans Separatist Sentiment in West" is dead on. If this man ever become Prime Minister of this country, it will provide final proof to many in these parts that too many of those in the rest of this vast land (points east) are just too far gone.  Dion is a guy who as the so-called unity minister showed the west that he was nothing more than a condescending SOB. His present wealth distribution scheme, dressed up as a environmental measure that he admits would hit Alberta and Saskatchewan right between the eyes, would appear, in retrospect, the next logical move for this twit. If this is the kind of leader the rest of Canada choses as its own, then there is a distinct possibility that I'd become an unrepentant western separatist till the day I die.

Meanwhile, the National Post's "Do As Al Says, Not As Al Does" article again brings to mind how hypocritical and utterly out to lunch Kyoto proponents seem to be. It is bad enough that we are getting screwed by Big Oil (or how else can you explain why oil prices are going up even though world-wide demand is going down due to those rising prices?), that we don't need to also get screwed over by a bunch of opportunists who, by their own actions, further undermine their arguments of impending man-made climatic doom.  I have a suspicion the technology is already out there to greatly reduce our reliance on oil in the transportation industry, just to name one, but for a bunch of self serving reasons there simply isn't the will to place such alternatives within reach of our dirty hands just yet. In short, we are just getting fed bullshit from both sides and I'm not buying it. The price is just too damn high.

In the meantime, as reported in the British Independent article, there is always the threat of a flu pandemic that could kill you and yours that causes me more concern than carbon foot prints.  I would think if something of that nature comes to pass, as it did about 90 years ago, it probably would be best that I be among the first to go. If I stayed, and my family went instead, I suspect it might have a rather negative influence on my demeanor.

Now, with all that said, I come to your comments, Joe, that got me to the keyboard in the first place. If I remember right, the result of the NEP was that it screwed Alberta's economy and a lot of people paid the price. If Dion's Green Shift (a slogan they actually stole from an organization!), does the same, then it would seem to me that a comparison between the two initiatives would be rather prudent. Quite frankly, to advocate otherwise comes across as rather dishonest. I mean, a National Post reporter states that only foreign corporations would be taxed, its affects not touching ordinary Albertans? Bullshit. If there was any measure of truth in that, even though it seems totally illogical on the face of it to even to propose, I'm guessing some Liberal politician might have mentioned that before. Maybe I missed something.

As for Alberta and Saskatchewan getting all the riches they constitutionally have the right to enjoy, while the rest being burdened, as mentioned in the article, by carbon emissions (yah, they are still hacking in Sudbury from all that Alberta smoke), at least we have a couple of "have" provinces. If that weren't the case, we all would be welfare states in need of a new sugar daddy. As for any additional taxation, I don't trust the guys I vote for to spend tax dollars with any speck of intelligence, never mind the firm of Dion and Hacks.

As for real pollution (which Kyoto does not cover), or corporate welfare (surprisingly not involving Bombardier or Air Canada this time), or producing crude to send to Americans to refine rather than doing it here ourselves, these are issues I also have some concerns about. The fact that, like on the federal level, the opposition parties in Alberta can't find a leader or provide alternative policy that any intelligent creature could even consider, forget about voting for, leaves even us frustrated as hell.

Ron

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From: "Jacob Rempel"
Subject:  Dear Editor, Cape Breton Post
 
I just sent the following to the Editor, Cape Breton Post
__________________________
Dear Editor, Cape Breton Post
You raised the right issues in your editorial when you wrote,
"Khadr had been immersed in the ideology of radical jihad
since the age of nine by his father, Ahmed Said Khadr,
who should be going on trial ­ for child abuse."
 
A friend asked me whether I thought young Omar should be
brought home to face trial. There are so many things wrong
with those Guantanamo detentions that it's hard to know
where to start or stop a discussion.
 
In the very first place, Quantanamo as a piece of land
should have been returned to Cuba a hundred years ago,
but that's another story. With respect to Omar Khadr's
situation, I replied to my friend's query as follows:

1. The Guantanamo prison should not exist.
2. All prisoners should be released from this torture chamber.
3. Omar Khadr was a child when his parents and Al Quaida
    trained him to be a child soldier. He was at that time not
    criminally responsible. When US soldiers captured him,
    they should have sent him to Canada immediately, 
    where a family court could remove him from his parents'
    custody, and turn him over to child protection services for
    re-education. The Liberal government failed to insist
    on this. Canada has failed a lot of Canadians in foreign
    prisons, and the Conservatives now continue this disgrace.
 
Jacob Rempel, Vancouver

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From: "Rebecca Gingrich"
Subject: Canada test case for internet control?
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=9627

A ps to this posting--I know that NFLD was not a province of Canada at the
time but they were still the only people that sent food to Alberta during
the devestation of the Dirty 30s.
becky

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From: Rubie Britton
Subject: "Children"

If you have small children in your
life, you must protect them.

Start with this video:
http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/376.html

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From: Benji, Regina

It is apparent we too have adopted the idea that young Omar Khadr is guilty so why the need for a trial?  I find this strange however when I consider what has happened in the United States with regular citizens it becomes easier to swallow. There are far too many young men in prison in the US and when one cares to look a good number are not guilty. Like duhhhh.

Omar is entitled to a fair trial right? Is that possible? No, in my opinion. The United States want to ensure they have young Omar and have done their best to get a verdict of guilty, in my opinion.

Remember the US does not torture prisoners! Now that is the biggest  fertilized white lie I've heard. Tell the truth however make sure you know the definition as many trip over their white lie, now. How or why would one of the major players resign when he learns the US will not tell the truth on water-boarding? This is not some sport it is torture plain and simple.

I again state our Prime Minister has his nose stuck so far up the US Presidents behind we are blinded to what is happening. We are so entwined into the affairs of the US we blindly go along with what we are told today.

Previous PM's erred too. This matter should have been addressed long before now. This however does not allow our present PM to get off the hook.

Let us remember too all the good things our troops were in this for.  You know, peace civility and all the rest. Seems there was no mention of a pipeline was there. How convenient. The Canadian public were massaged to believe we were only there to help the people.

How then did a pipe line OIL get into this? I wonder and shake my head. Once again, in my opinion we've been duped. Sure it is right we help this nation be as free as ours however when the oil situation rears its ugly head we are there to protect those players and if we do help others out… it's a bonus. The fact remains we are in Afghanistan as the result of oil plain and simple.

The truth if it were told would have been nice. Those who lost their lives might have felt much different if it were known we are mainly there to protect once again American interests.

One last point... given the might of the US I find it strange they have yet found Bin Laden. Could it be they don't want to? Why, to help nurture what is going on in Afghanistan?

Benji

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From: "R. Gagne"
Subject: Re:DD

Joe:

I'm with Becky on this one.

The good John Moore was a little selective in his presentation regarding
the major damage done to the Alberta economy by the NEP. That occurred
in 1982, four years before oil prices really tanked in 1986.

I was with the then Employment and Immigration Commission at the time
and the funding we had to provide for unemployment insurance in the
province tripled in a fifteen month period beginning in 1982.

The damage to the Alberta economy caused by the NEP was real. Good,
hard-working people lost their jobs, their homes, and sometimes their
families because of it. The trauma was genuine and not the creation of
an over-heated imagination or fear-mongering in the West.

The kind of patronizing and condescending clap-trap spouted by Moore
does nothing to resolve the real issues we face in this country,
although I support his right to do so.

Real

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From: Joseph Common Ground

Subject: YouTube - President Bush Is A Murderer?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtYotUN0VBk

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