Daily Digest November 18, 2008

The DAILY DIGEST: INFORMATION and OPINION from ST. JOHN'S to VICTORIA.
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EDITORIAL PAGEs

ST.JOHN'S TELEGRAM -
A boat for all seasons

CORNER BROOK WESTERN STAR -
We can't let it happen again

CHARLOTTETOWN GUARDIAN -
Making Parliament work this time
Our MPs must focus their attention on addressing the anxiety many Canadians are feeling about their economic future.

HALIFAX CHRONICLE HERALD -
Keeping media at bay: Open season on openness

AMHERST DAILY NEWS -
Veil over debate not a good start

OTTAWA CITIZEN -
Houses are still homes

Politics as usual

A festival of riches

Assuming the worst

KINGSTON WHIG STANDARD-
IT'S CALLED SUPPLY AND DEMAND

RESTORE CIVILITY TO PARLIAMENT

WE GIVE, THE BANKS TAKE

Why are all our political leaders grey-haired men?

TORONTO STAR -
Stifling an Afghan probe

Liberal debates should be open

GLOBE & MAIL -
The costliest way is not the only way
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20081117.wesecurity18/BNStory/specialComment/home

TwentysomethingsComment
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20081117.weG2018/BNStory/specialComment/home

Hear the Light
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20081117.weBeatles18/BNStory/specialComment/home

TORONTO SUN -

New rules for young drivers are welcome

HAMILTON SPECTATOR -
Drunk driving plan is unfair

K-W RECORD -
Ignatieff erred on closed meeting

Welcome to a new world order

WINDSOR STAR -
Harper's stand

Balancing the books

Everyone wins if automakers get some help

SUDBURY STAR -
Inauspicious start ­ Editorial (add your comment)

WINNIPEG FREE PRESS -
Best of a bad lot
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/editorial/story/4251094p-4894660c.html

First test today
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/editorial/story/4251096p-4894670c.html

WINNIPEG SUN -
Peers to blame for binge kids

REGINA LEADER-POST -
Deficit of good sense

EDMONTON JOURNAL -
Parliament needs tougher Speaker

VANCOUVER SUN -
Any deficit spending must be locked in by law to a short term

VANCOUVER PROVINCE -
Afghanistan's security far worse if Canada pulls out

Time for docs to ditch the pen and pad

VICTORIA TIMES-COLONIST -
Deficits can help in tough times


ISSUES

AFGHANISTAN -
Pakistan Afghan border: 'The biggest single battle of the war on terror' (AUDIO)
Jason Burke reports from the front line battle between the Pakistan army and Islamist militants
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/audio/2008/nov/18/pakistan-afghanistan-border-army?popup=true

Plus and minus: How to win in Afghanistan
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/JK19Df01.html

Obama-tied group wants 'dramatic' shift
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/JK19Df03.html

Don't Ask, Don't Tell' in Pakistan Drone War
"The U.S. government refuses to publicly acknowledge the attacks while Pakistan's government continues to complain noisily about the politically sensitive strikes." http://blog.wired.com/defense/agony_of_astan/index.html

Karzai Asks Iran for Help
Iran Daily (11/18/2008)

U.N. envoy says Obama a new chance for Afghanistan
Reuters (11/18/2008)

Trilateral meeting significant for Afghanistan: Jawad
Pajhwok (11/18/2008)

Plus and minus: How to win in Afghanistan
Asia Times (11/18/2008)

Afghan returnees huddle in tent camps
The Associated Press (11/18/2008)

Does Hamid Karzai really want to negotiate with Mullah Omar?
Slate (11/18/2008)

US caught in awkward spot by Karzai's offer
AFP (11/18/2008)

Afghanistan is making progress despite its president
The Wall Street Journal (11/18/2008)

Time not right to talk to Taliban in Afghanistan: US admiral
Agence France Presse (11/18/2008)


CANADIAN FORCES

Canadians keep Afghans from Taliban with work projects
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20081118/Afghan_workprojects_081118/20081118?hub=Canada

Canadian military chopper makes brief test flight
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20081118/military_chopper_081118/20081118?hub=Canada


CANUSA/USACAN
Bush's willing accomplice

U.S.-Canada Military Plan Could Place Troops in Each Other's Country
http://www.progressive.org/mag/wx111708.html


ECONOMIC AFFAIRS
Leaders do little to combat crisis, critics say

Market fix, Part 1

Eternal scary ride

Mothballed mill will go to China


FOREIGN AFFAIRS
Piracy on this scale must not be allowed togoon

NATO says it fired at insurgents in Pakistan

JUSTICE SYSTEM
Ontario farm workers can join unions, court rules


POLITICS IN THE PROVINCES
Newfoundland plans party to celebrate 'have' status

Quebec's fury over securities plan works for both camps

Ottawa, Ontario share auto bailout concerns

New bill could lead to animal abuse: critics

New bill allows Ontario to seize drunk drivers' cars on the spot  

Proposed young driver law in Ont. already seeing backlash from teens

New glitch in the Alberta boom

Senate reform: the sour reality


PARTY POLITICS
Re-elected Commons Speaker urges better behaviour

Harper pushes united front
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20081118.wparliament18/BNStory/politics/home

Layton: Put working families, not financial sector, first

Throne speech changed to focus on the economy


POLITICAL OPINION -
New world order seizes Parliament
http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fullcomment/archive/2008/11/17/don-martin-mps-return-from-the-summer-that-changed-everything.aspx

Excesses of pendulum politics
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20081117.wcomanning18/BNStory/specialComment/home

What's in store for Parliament?

Economic crisis shifts political odds

Priority obvious


Conservatives yank their election ads from Youtube

Harper's new lawyer repped Mulroney in action against Peter C. Newman

Harper's lawyer in Cadman case steps down 66 reader comments
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20081117.wharper1118/BNStory/politics/home

Harper lawyer withdraws from Cadman case

(Harper-Cadman-Lawyer)
http://www.inews880.com/Channels/Reg/LocalNews/story.aspx?ID=1040457


Rae targets Ignatieff's 'peekaboo campaign'
http://www.nationalpost.com/news/canada/politics/story.html?id=967468

Rae or Ignatieff on the economy: bad experience versus no experience
http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fullcomment/archive/2008/11/17/kelly-mcparland-liberals-and-the-economy.aspx

Best frenemies forever
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20081118.wltimson18/BNStory/lifeMain/home

The Greens are both praising and blaming their leader
http://blog.macleans.ca/2008/11/17/its-all-about-may/#more-17429


PROGRAMMES
Tories back off law-and-order plans

Under fire, budget officer to go ahead with release of first financial report

The cuts affect Harper harshly cultural companies, reveals a large survey
http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ledevoir.com%2F2008%2F11%2F18%2F216891.html&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sl=fr&tl=en

CBC exec racks up big tab

Feds., Ont., will look into risks for Canada in potential auto bailout deal

Lame-duck congress risks laying an egg on auto industry bailout deal

Big 3 bankruptcy would 'devastate' economy: CAW

Auto workers need to co-operate in rescue - Canada

Canadian Auto Union Won't Accept Job Cuts in Possible Bailout, Post Says

Free Ride


OPINION AND INFORMATION
In hard times, political ideology is out

Testing, testing, bigot 1-2-3
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20081117.wcowent18/BNStory/specialComment/home

Paul Martin gets the last laugh
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20081117.wcosimp18/BNStory/specialComment/home

U. S. needs to clean up its act
http://www.nationalpost.com/opinion/columnists/story.html?id=7bd7349e-d747-4560-8b70-5400f3289fcb

Ground shifting on human rights battle

Canada's Conservatives are a different breed than U.S. Republicans

Power shift

China is now calling American monetary tune

Craps to the auto bailout


INFOS 
Les Forces ne font pas le compte des pertes d'ouïe et traumatismes crâniens
http://www.cyberpresse.ca/dossiers/le-canada-en-afghanistan/200811/16/01-801244-les-forces-ne-font-pas-le-compte-des-pertes-douie-et-traumatismes-craniens.php

Ottawa sort de nouveaux arguments pour une commission unique des valeurs
http://info.branchez-vous.com/Nationales/081117/N1117134AU.html

Au moins 600 représentations à l'étranger menacées
http://www.ledevoir.com/2008/11/18/216891.html

À la recherche d'un président
http://www.radio-canada.ca/nouvelles/National/2008/11/18/001-chambre_communes.shtml

Les attentes des minorités francophones
http://www.radio-canada.ca/regions/Ontario/2008/11/17/003-trone-attentes-francophones_n.shtml

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Cadman: tale of the tape… to date

According to the article Tories want opposition to drop 'in and out' and Cadman probes in House Chief Government Whip Gordon O'Connor is quoted as saying he hopes "House committees will move on from some of the contentious issues that paralysed some committees in the last session, for example the "in and out" scandal and the Cadman Tape Affair."

With Harper lawyer withdrawing from Cadman case a review of the case as it developed is in order in that we may be assured ths contentious issue will not be dropped - any more than the case was in order to end contentiousness.

         Joe

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Cadman: tale of the tape… to date

BY PAUL WELLS

Well, let's run this down, shall we?

Feb. 28: Stephen Harper's voice appears on a Vancouver reporter's tape; ; the then-opposition leader says "I know there were discussions" by people "legitimately representing the [Conservative] Party" with the dying MP Chuck Cadman with regard to "financial considerations." Details of what, precisely, Harper was referring to remain blurry and in dispute.

March 13: Harper files a $2.5 million defamation suit  against the Liberal Party of Canada over allegations surrounding the tape. This makes him the first prime minister in the history of the country to sue the opposition. Says the prime minister: "I look forward to seeing the leader of the opposition actually let this go to trial so he can hear the whole truth and admit his own role in it."

Sept. 3: In a transcript of sworn testimony filed at Ontario Superior Court, Harper says he authorized a visit by his campaign manager to Chuck Cadman before the 2005 vote. From Harper's testimony:

    "Maybe I should add to you where this came up firstly," he said. "This is when Doug Finley called me through my executive, Ray Novak, on the 18th, and he asked permission to approach Chuck Cadman on behalf of the party to get him to rejoin the caucus, and that the story was that Chuck wanted to vote with us in Parliament as he usually did, and that he would want to rejoin the caucus and fight with us in an election campaign, but that he couldn't because he didn't have, you know, he didn't have the financing, he would have lost the election, et cetera, et cetera".

Oct. 10: Court-ordered audio analysis by the expert Harper hired shows that the relevant portion of the tape — the part everyone quotes — contains no splices, edits or alterations.

Oct. 19: Dona Cadman, the newly-elected Conservative MP for her late husband's Surrey North riding, calls Tom Zytaruk's book "very factual." ." When asked about a letter to a newspaper from her daughter Jodi, demanding that Harper and MP James Moore apologize to Zytaruk for impugning his work, Dona Cadman declines to comment, except to say, "I'm just proud of Jodi."

Nov. 17: Harper's lawyer in the defamation case against the Liberals steps down.

(In perhaps unrelated news: Ex-Tory candidate wins lawsuit:

    ("Ontario Superior Court Justice Denis Power said the party had no right to renege on the deal with Ottawa lawyer Alan Riddell, a candidate in Ottawa South… Party officials first denied there was a deal and then, when Riddell went public with details of the deal, said he had violated the agreement… 'There is no agreement and he hasn't been paid anything,' Harper said in December 2005, referring to Riddell, a member of the Conservative party for 20 years.")

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From: "Michael Watkins"

On Mon, November 17, 2008 10:00 pm, Joe Hueglin wrote:
> Should the private information of individuals
> contacting their Conservative Party of Canada Members of Parliament be
 ...snip...
> its CIMS system " . . . to establish a base of supporters in order to
> gradually transform into members then donors, " . ?

More than two years ago I wrote to readers of Daily Digest that it appears
the Conservative Party has committed offenses under the PIPEDA - Personal
Information Protection and Electronic Documents Act[1] - as well as other
personal information and privacy laws that exist in both federal and
provincial jurisdictions.

I was once an authorized user of CIMS, plus had at the time of the merger
of the PCPC and CA parties received a technical briefing on the nature of
the application, which the Canadian Alliance Party had been using already,
having acquired or leased it from another party which developed, leased or
sold the same technology to the Ontario Progressive Conservative Party.

The technology provides secure remote access to a centralized database and
data warehouse system that is capable of capturing detailed information on
every single Canadian. The system is designed to track every interaction
between the "party" (be it individual contact, a mail campaign, a letter
or phone call to an MP or candidate, a visit to a party office or, as is
alleged by several reports, a visit to a constituency office, etc) and an
individual.

The system is also designed to track observations made of individuals and
locations. The system could easily provide the ability to map individuals
on to locations. Say a house displayed a competing candidate's lawn sign;
this information can be captured in the system and automatically applied
or otherwise linked to any individuals who happen to reside in the house.

The CIMS system is only as comprehensive as its users - largely EDA's but
also allegedly constituency offices - are in terms of feeding it data.
Reports from the likes of Garth Turner appear to suggest the Conservative
Party has raised the bar for all such CIMS users to force or otherwise
encourage a higher level of data capture.

Knowing how comprehensive the CIMS system is, and how important a tool it
is seen to be, one can only conclude that there is a significant amount of
data in the system on a great many Canadian citizens and residents. Such
data, which, due to the nature of the tool and those who fund it, is
highly political in nature and could be used in many ways which could not
possibly be imagined by those whose data is being captured and tracked
without their express permission.

The issue at hand is the CPC's continued use of CIMS for collecting
personal information on members and non members alike which, in many
cases, can very clearly be illustrated to having been collected without
the express consent those whose personal details are being monitored.

When Garth Turner was pushed out of caucus he had also written about how
the party had demanded of him and his constituency office staff to collect
data in CIMS.[2]

    "After the January, 2006 election, my constituency staff was
instructed by the Conservative Party to use CIMS on a daily basis,
loading in information about constituents who were seeking help, or
who contacted the office for any reason, be it to praise the member or
rant. CIMS then provided a living database in which pre-loaded
electoral profiles were supplemented by this daily stream of
information which might identify the occupants of a specific house as
seniors, Conservatives, or members of a certain faith." -- Garth
Turner[2]

Turner later in the House attempted to ask Prime Minister Stephen Harper
about the use of private information collected from constituents. Of
course no proper or truthful answer was forthcoming. [3]

At one point during the thick of the David Emerson affair someone who had
access to CIMS had released some of my personal information to journalists
- a clear breach of both the terms of use of CIMS as well as federal
law.[3]

[1] http://www.privcom.gc.ca/legislation/index_e.asp
[2] http://www.garth.ca/weblog/2007/10/12/nowhere-to-hide/
[3] http://mycelium.chanterelle.ca/video/play/id/4717bef00d9b5
[3] http://mikewatkins.ca/2006/03/24/member-information-is-private/

> Seems to me there ought to be a disclosure notice
> to those coming to the M.P.s offices for assistance.

Yes and no. Yes, the collection of any data must be accompanied by a
proper disclosure which states fully how that data is to be used. The CPC
does not do this.

But no, I can not fathom why a Member of Parliament, whose constituency
office is said to be a non-partisan organ of the state, should be
literally shovelling the private information of Canadians into a tool
owned/operated by the Conservative Party of Canada for its exclusive use.

Every riding association is liable under the applicable legislation, as is
every constituency office and every CIMS user. Certainly also liable under
the legislation is the Conservative Party which owns or leases CIMS and
uses this data and all those in a position of authority to force the use
of CIMS by way of demands of EDA's, and other party or member of
parliament related staff.  which tracks personal information without
having fully disclosed the purpose of such information retention to those
whose information they are retaining.

Imagine, an organ of the state, paid for by taxpayer dollars - a
constituency office - which is supposed to be acting in a non partisan
manner on behalf of all constituents, is engaged in performing data
collection and data entry for the Conservative Party of Canada. A side
issue, not nearly as serious as the collection of private information
without authorization: has the CPC the nerve to also charge constituency
offices for the CIMS software / access?

It was my understanding that CIMS was "leased" not owned, and that the
application was originally developed on contract for the Ontario PC Party.
If it is still the case that the software is leased, who is the lessor?
Who owns title to the software? Who or what corporation is making profit
from the leasing of CIMS to the CPC (and/or the OPC)? Who are the
individuals behind the company offering CIMS and what is their connection
to the CPC, and/or the OPC?

So many questions and so few answers.

It would seem to be appropriate to send a letter of complaint to both
federal and provincial privacy commissioners

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From: "The Natroses"

Hi Joe,  Here in Newfoundland, even people who write via email to a conservative MP, will find themselves receiving emails/telephone calls.  I had mail, and calls from the national office of the Conservatives for donations/polls. I wrote to various MPs, being very polite correctly them on comments made about Newfoundland and Labrador. About 6 months ago, the e-mails stop all together, and I was wondering why? I assumed they were cleaning up their data base.  Than the election material started to come, some in my name and some using the post office as a drop. On election day, after I had voted, I was requested to put my voter card that identifies me into a sealed box. I asked them why, and she responded to be dispose for garbage. The first image that came into my head, was politicians of the Conservative kind, culling the boxes for information or running a data base of who voted. Of course, I declined. Two weeks ago the Conservatives took it a step further. Everybody and their mother received a phone call from Conservative headquarters, asking for a donation to pay down the debt cause by the election. Talk about gall, yet I wonder how much money they did receive using this method in NL, that is now Conservative/Harper free?

From the Natroses

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From: "Rebecca Gingrich"

Joe--I write occasionally to my MP, Harper or Ministers that have the
portfolio that I am writing about. I have also written to my MP to ask him
to remove my name from their mailing list and I have not been a member
for 3 years. But I still get mail. I have no idea what is in the envelope as I
never open them--just rip in half and burn with the other garbage. Now I
know why I am still getting the mail.

What the below post means to me is that if we write a letter we are on a
list??? How democratic of them.

I remember the angst shown by the CPC when it was discovered that the
Liberals were keeping a database on Canadians. But then I guess it only
matters who is keeping those lists? My daughter has warned me I will be put
on a list because of the letters I write--I guess she is right--but I didn't
expect it to be a list compiled by my freedom loving government. Once on a
list, that list becomes a weapon against Canadians. Those that don't know
history are doomed to repeat it??? It sounds very simple right now--but
lists have a way of becoming a tool for nefarious actions.

George Orwell ring a bell?

becky

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From: "Efstratios Psarianos"

INVASION OF PRIVACY OR NOT?

On a practical level: are phone calls from political parties subject (or will they be subjected) to being screened out by the 'no telemarketing calls' registry? This doesn't apply to mailings, e-mails, etc., of course.

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. . . ON AN ETHICAL CUM LEGAL LEVEL?

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Well, if you're going all ethical on me all of a sudden ... hahahaha.
 
Ethics we might as well say is a non-issue. On the one side, the current situation is that of what's called oligopolistic competition ... there's no monopolist, but there are only a few large players. As soon as one does something and gains a significant advantage, the others MUST follow to remain competitive. This is how airlines work .. as soon as one drops his price on a given route, all other follow. What'll happen for the parties, then, will be that unless a law subjects them to 'no calling', they'll all get into it (within the limits of their capabilities).
 
So, summarily: no regs = no restraints = free-for-all. Amazing, how economic thinking invades everyday life, eh? For example, 'no regs = free-for-all' sort of reminds one of something else recently in the news ...
 
Cheers!
Stratos
 
P.S. I'm gradually putting together something on equity-vs-debt for bank refinancing. No promises, though ...

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From: Ron Thornton

Hi Joe:

In musing through the Nov. 17th Digest, I notice the Corner Brook paper touched on one my favorite subjects. "Do something that helps out" to fight global warming. Now, I agree the climate is changing (as it does on a daily basis), but I'm thinking we should be spending more of our resources and putting more of our efforts more toward adapting than trying to change what can't be changed. I am afraid that the hypocrisy and the dishonesty of the Al Gores of this world have sadly left me deaf to their self-serving calls to change our habits while they refuse to alter their own. It all comes down to trust, and I don't trust the bastards.

I'm a good capitalist, but I do agree the rich need to pay their fair share. Hell, they need to pay an unfair share, as they do have rather an unfair advantage over the rest of us whom these fat cats view as something less than cattle. The Montreal Gazette's article of how the rich has squirreled away billions from the taxman reminded me that it was primarily these rich SOB's that opened the door to the conditions that resulted in the current financial meltdown. Having my government not act to ensure that the glittered set cough up their share does not impress me.

On a related subject, I once thought a single tax rate to be a good thing, regardless as to income. Then I remembered that 30% of $30,000 leaves one with just $21,000, while 30% of a million leaves some poor twit with just $700,000 to make ends meet. At the risk of becoming a socialist, me thinks the rich guy can pay more than that. I might change my mind when I become a rich guy, but I'm still waiting for my windfall.

The major auto manufacturers are hoping for a major windfall from a couple of North American governments to keep the wolves from the door. I believe we should, but the money should come through buying shares in the companies. It would help the stock market as well as give us something for our tax dollars in the form of some ownership, a share of the assets and a voice in the decision making. I mean, current management made some stupid moves to put them in their current position. Again, one shouldn't expect to get something for nothing, especially CEO's making more money than most of us will ever see for doing jobs they probably should have been fired from.

As to your question, Joe, about political parties adding to their data base information through those contacting a Member of Parliament, I actually don't have a problem with it. I mean, you buy a magazine subscription or enter a draw at a fair and everyone and his dog seems to wind up with your info. If they want to mail me something, I usually just toss it. If a human phones me up to peddle whatever I usually have a little fun with them at their expense and see how long it takes for them to end the call. If they drive me nuts by calling me, it is only fair I drive them nuts for making the call. If it is a recording, I just hang up. My only concern is just how much of my personal info any of them have on me, but I really don't have a hell of a lot to hide. However, my general rule of thumb is nobody gets anything unless they can convince me otherwise, and they don't get much time to do that. Actually, they probably get none.

Have a good one, Joe.

Ron.

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From: Rubie Britton
Subject: Naomi Klein's ( Canadian) "In Praise of a Rocky Transition."

In Praise of a Rocky Transition
by Naomi Klein, The Nation, November 13, 2008

The more details emerge, the clearer it becomes that Washington's handling of the Wall Street bailout is not merely incompetent. It is borderline criminal.

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From: Henry Atkinson
Subject: The Boss

Letter from the Boss,

As the CFO of this business that employees 140 people, I have 
resigned myself to the fact that Barrack Obama will be our next 
President, and that our taxes and government fees will increase in a 
BIG way.

To compensate for these increases, I figure that the Clients will 
have to see an increase in our fees to them of about 8% but since we 
cannot increase our fees right now due to the dismal state of our 
economy, we will have to lay off six of our employees instead. This 
has really been eating at me for a while, as we believe we are family 
here and I didn't know how to choose who will have to go.

So, this is what I did. I strolled thru our parking lot and found 8 
Obama bumper stickers on our employees' cars and have decided these 
folks will be the first to be laid off. I can't think of a more fair 
way to approach this problem. These folks wanted change; I gave it to 
them.

If you have a better idea, let me know.

Sincerely,

The Boss

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From: "GG SCHRAMM" <emperor@telus.net>
Subject: Joe

OPINION
 
I have heard and read some of the comments of Canadian's seeking solution to Canada's social programs and low income housing needs. While many of these comments reflect a non inclusive stance, I would like to, for the record, encourage some consistency between elected federal governments.
 
As a veteran soldier and sailor I know there is no wasted time being spent on vacation and travel after one's career has "ended."  It may be noted we all care about our Country's future and take steps without being devided by the media.
 
I believe in conscription.  I believe every Canadian should receive a guaranteed benefit when unemployed and a chance to earn respect and liberty within the boundary's of our Nation's litigative processes. I believe in a strong "RESERVE" process in which our regular forces can draw from. I think what you think of other's is often based on what you think of yourselves.  I want to encourage you to give the poor and disadvantaged a regimented structure which does not undermine the educational product of our current leaders and icon's. I want to believe in quality of life in future generations.
 
LETHBRIDGE HERALD -
At least the irony is rich
http://www.lethbridgeherald.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=7876&Itemid=56
 
"GG SCHRAMM**..."
emperor@telus.net
VVV

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